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st. stay with us when we checked in with san francisco mayor edley and former mayor willie brown. these guys are no strangers. we have the so-called fiscal cliff. with the politics involved here? how much of what we have been seeing is real deal cutting and how much is show? >> first of all, none of it is really show. it's really politicians trying their best to prevail what they promise their voters they would do. that's what that is. they are going as well as they can. the first day as we said something different than willie brown. i immediately agreed. my voters would have to say, i didn't do what i promised to do. >> what if what you promise to do is after you sit down and see the facts and it isn't the right way to go. what do you do politically? >> for me i naturally try to get that information out there but also let the public is certainly everybody looking at the budget process understand the change of circumstances we face. for me but it has always been kind of a process where you don't really hide. >> it seems to me the question is, republicans say, we can't give on tax
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